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		<title>By: The importance of writing things down &#124; A Wandering Mind</title>
		<link>http://johnkendrickonline.com/2008/10/04/journaling-your-way-to-gtd/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The importance of writing things down &#124; A Wandering Mind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the relevant list in RTM.  I do also use my trusty notebook when in meetings, using a variant of John Kendrick&#8217;s excellent system to record all the action items or questions that come out of my sessions.  I&#8217;m not perfect, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the relevant list in RTM.  I do also use my trusty notebook when in meetings, using a variant of John Kendrick&#8217;s excellent system to record all the action items or questions that come out of my sessions.  I&#8217;m not perfect, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://johnkendrickonline.com/2008/10/04/journaling-your-way-to-gtd/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the lengthy reply.  To be clear, my project related notes do go in the project folder, while being maintained also in the journal.  When I arrive back at my office, I immediately photocopy the journal page with the project notes, draw a line through any non-related information on the page and place that copy in the appropriate project folder, so I don&#039;t have to look up any meeting notes outside of the project folder.

The question might be asked, why keep them in the journal?  When I look back in the journal, it helps to give me a perspective of everything that happened and the information collected on that day.  I have to admit, that since processing my inbox to zero with GTD, I seldom have to do this anymore.  It might just be over doing it on my end, but it really doesn&#039;t take much time, actually within the two-minute rule. 

Thank you again for your thoughtful comments and reading.  John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the lengthy reply.  To be clear, my project related notes do go in the project folder, while being maintained also in the journal.  When I arrive back at my office, I immediately photocopy the journal page with the project notes, draw a line through any non-related information on the page and place that copy in the appropriate project folder, so I don&#8217;t have to look up any meeting notes outside of the project folder.</p>
<p>The question might be asked, why keep them in the journal?  When I look back in the journal, it helps to give me a perspective of everything that happened and the information collected on that day.  I have to admit, that since processing my inbox to zero with GTD, I seldom have to do this anymore.  It might just be over doing it on my end, but it really doesn&#8217;t take much time, actually within the two-minute rule. </p>
<p>Thank you again for your thoughtful comments and reading.  John</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Cornell</title>
		<link>http://johnkendrickonline.com/2008/10/04/journaling-your-way-to-gtd/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Cornell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really interesting idea, esp. including the time log. I strongly disagree with your approach, though. I&#039;ve seen this with clients, and I recommend against it. The major flaw is &quot;everything in one place.&quot; I find it better to associate notes from project work and meetings on separate dedicated pages. If you want to keep a journal of daily activity, fine. Just don&#039;t put *content* on it. Retrieval is the problem. Say you want to work on a project, so you grab it&#039;s folder and jump in. Only now you have to look up the binder, get it, and flip through possibly multiple pages (because project work might be spread throughout the journal). There go 5-10 minutes right there.

So how to handle your cases? I suggest:

o Activity journal/time log: Dedicated notebook such as yours. Archive by date.
o Conversations: In associated project folder. If none exists (say for a regular general meeting), dedicate a folder to that meeting. Archive by date.
o Marking action: Notate commitments (yours and theirs) for post-meeting processing (see below). I like your checkbox idea. I&#039;ve seen clients highlight, underline, or add an &quot;icon&quot; like a star. I use an &quot;A&quot; in a circle for action, and a &quot;W/F&quot; in a circle for ... guess what :-)
o Idea capture: Either on the meeting/project notes, or in your journal if that&#039;s where you like them. I use both, depending on the context. Out for a walk - goes on mini notebook I carry in my man bag (ugly word!). For a meeting, my trusty legal pad.

In all cases afer meetings staple your notes, toss them in your inbox, and process normally, taking care to pull out actions. Check off each to ensure none are missed.

Thanks again for the post. Thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting idea, esp. including the time log. I strongly disagree with your approach, though. I&#8217;ve seen this with clients, and I recommend against it. The major flaw is &#8220;everything in one place.&#8221; I find it better to associate notes from project work and meetings on separate dedicated pages. If you want to keep a journal of daily activity, fine. Just don&#8217;t put *content* on it. Retrieval is the problem. Say you want to work on a project, so you grab it&#8217;s folder and jump in. Only now you have to look up the binder, get it, and flip through possibly multiple pages (because project work might be spread throughout the journal). There go 5-10 minutes right there.</p>
<p>So how to handle your cases? I suggest:</p>
<p>o Activity journal/time log: Dedicated notebook such as yours. Archive by date.<br />
o Conversations: In associated project folder. If none exists (say for a regular general meeting), dedicate a folder to that meeting. Archive by date.<br />
o Marking action: Notate commitments (yours and theirs) for post-meeting processing (see below). I like your checkbox idea. I&#8217;ve seen clients highlight, underline, or add an &#8220;icon&#8221; like a star. I use an &#8220;A&#8221; in a circle for action, and a &#8220;W/F&#8221; in a circle for &#8230; guess what :-)<br />
o Idea capture: Either on the meeting/project notes, or in your journal if that&#8217;s where you like them. I use both, depending on the context. Out for a walk &#8211; goes on mini notebook I carry in my man bag (ugly word!). For a meeting, my trusty legal pad.</p>
<p>In all cases afer meetings staple your notes, toss them in your inbox, and process normally, taking care to pull out actions. Check off each to ensure none are missed.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the post. Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Arif</title>
		<link>http://johnkendrickonline.com/2008/10/04/journaling-your-way-to-gtd/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arif]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear John,

Thank you so very much for the super-detailed blog post.  Ever since you posted the first reference to journaling, I have been visualising (almost fantasizing) of having my own journal and comfortably noting my activities down.  You&#039;ve explained everything very clearly to a great level of detail. No further questions for now, but I foresee that I will certainly have them as I begin implementing this system over the next couple of weeks.  

John, just one concern, I downloaded the pdf of a sample paper journal more than once.  But each time the file appeared incomplete.  May I request you to email that pdf to me.

Thanks John.  Much appreciate your taking the time out to explain this out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear John,</p>
<p>Thank you so very much for the super-detailed blog post.  Ever since you posted the first reference to journaling, I have been visualising (almost fantasizing) of having my own journal and comfortably noting my activities down.  You&#8217;ve explained everything very clearly to a great level of detail. No further questions for now, but I foresee that I will certainly have them as I begin implementing this system over the next couple of weeks.  </p>
<p>John, just one concern, I downloaded the pdf of a sample paper journal more than once.  But each time the file appeared incomplete.  May I request you to email that pdf to me.</p>
<p>Thanks John.  Much appreciate your taking the time out to explain this out.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre Kibbe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andre Kibbe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the idea of marking out anything that needs to be entered as a task in the GTD system, though I prefer checks to checkboxes. Too often journal entries have implicit actions that don&#039;t get identified or extracted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of marking out anything that needs to be entered as a task in the GTD system, though I prefer checks to checkboxes. Too often journal entries have implicit actions that don&#8217;t get identified or extracted.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn O'Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn O'Connor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. I do the same thing only I use David Seah&#039;s Emergent Task Planner  
as the form for my journal. It gives me space for my hard appointments (patients and students) and space for my &quot;MITs&quot; and plenty more space for everything that comes up. I put them in an archive (simple folder, not organized well) but I am going to change and keep the archives better organized, put them in order in a notebook. Again, great post.

Lynn]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I do the same thing only I use David Seah&#8217;s Emergent Task Planner<br />
as the form for my journal. It gives me space for my hard appointments (patients and students) and space for my &#8220;MITs&#8221; and plenty more space for everything that comes up. I put them in an archive (simple folder, not organized well) but I am going to change and keep the archives better organized, put them in order in a notebook. Again, great post.</p>
<p>Lynn</p>
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		<title>By: GTD and Productivity Links - 5th October 2008 &#124; Did I Get Things Done? - Getting Things Done GTD with Personal Development and Motivation for Success</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] link for this week is a great post from upcoming GTD Blogger John Kendrick. The post is titled Journaling your way to GTD and is well worth the time [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: John Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://johnkendrickonline.com/2008/10/04/journaling-your-way-to-gtd/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comments Stephen.  And no, I&#039;m not a lawyer, but I have seen much value over the years in documenting the time I spend.  I think of it just like budgeting money.  Both are limited resources, time even more than money since everyone has the same amount, just 24 hours a day.  So to me, tracking time is no different than tracking money.

I manage an IT training center and there have been occasions throughout my career when management has asked me to tell them what I do.  Because I have documented my work by time, it is easy to compile that kind of list whenever it is requested.  And recently, our organization has required all but its top level managers to keep a time sheet each week documenting the time spent on production support and specific project work for resource allocation purposes.  It was rough for many in our organization to start that discipline, but mine was already very much a part of my work life, so it wasn&#039;t a big change for me.

And I agree, Covey and GTD can coexist.  Just use the higher level principals from Covey to plan, manage and prioritize your life, and apply GTD to handle the daily tasks and one can remove much stress in their  life.  John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Stephen.  And no, I&#8217;m not a lawyer, but I have seen much value over the years in documenting the time I spend.  I think of it just like budgeting money.  Both are limited resources, time even more than money since everyone has the same amount, just 24 hours a day.  So to me, tracking time is no different than tracking money.</p>
<p>I manage an IT training center and there have been occasions throughout my career when management has asked me to tell them what I do.  Because I have documented my work by time, it is easy to compile that kind of list whenever it is requested.  And recently, our organization has required all but its top level managers to keep a time sheet each week documenting the time spent on production support and specific project work for resource allocation purposes.  It was rough for many in our organization to start that discipline, but mine was already very much a part of my work life, so it wasn&#8217;t a big change for me.</p>
<p>And I agree, Covey and GTD can coexist.  Just use the higher level principals from Covey to plan, manage and prioritize your life, and apply GTD to handle the daily tasks and one can remove much stress in their  life.  John</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow - So you are basically doing a time inventory everyday along with tracking your other commitments? You would make a good Attorney :-) - or maybe you already are? I can imagine once that is ingrained it could be quite useful. Historically it has been a challenge doing a time inventory for just ONE day for me.

Impressive discipline and quite useful I am sure. It is also interesting to hear from someone that has utilized Seven Habits AND GTD. Reading GTD I constantly could see relationships between Covey&#039;s principle living and habits and the GTD mindset and personally think the two can complement each other.

-Stephen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; So you are basically doing a time inventory everyday along with tracking your other commitments? You would make a good Attorney :-) &#8211; or maybe you already are? I can imagine once that is ingrained it could be quite useful. Historically it has been a challenge doing a time inventory for just ONE day for me.</p>
<p>Impressive discipline and quite useful I am sure. It is also interesting to hear from someone that has utilized Seven Habits AND GTD. Reading GTD I constantly could see relationships between Covey&#8217;s principle living and habits and the GTD mindset and personally think the two can complement each other.</p>
<p>-Stephen</p>
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		<title>By: ~How to Get Started with GTD &#171; John Kendrick&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[~How to Get Started with GTD &#171; John Kendrick&#8217;s Weblog]]></dc:creator>
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